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Oct
09

Bun Fight – Question Time with Nick Griffin

Ill Informed Ranting

Ill Informed Ranting

I listened to Any Questions last week with the BNP leader Nick Griffin. I’d previously blogged about this and a friend email me to say that she thought that, contrary to my opinion, some people were too stupid to be exposed to Griffin’s sort of talk.

I’d respond that, while it’s true that stupid people are more susceptible to the ill informed rantings of racists (IIROR) they ar also more susceptible to the ill informed rantings of non-racists.

And good grief there was a lot of ill informed ranting on both sides in last week’s Question Time. It was a bun fight as I had predicted. Nobody let Nick Griffin finish a sentence. Everyone condemned him before he had a chance to condemn himself. I thought it was a missed opportunity to let the bloke show himself for what he was.

Someone asked him why he visited a Ku Klux Klan leader in America and he started to explain and said that this particular group were “almost totally non-violent” which I thought was a little gem but nobody was able to pull him up on this as no sooner had he uttered the words than the other panellists were asking him other questions and deriding his smile and they never actually picked up on this “almost totally..”.

It frustrates me that the self riotous lefties cannot bare for anyone to hear their opponents opinions. It’s as if they have no confidence in their own argument or opinions.

Bonnie Greer is a black American cultural commentator who usually appears on Newsnight reviewing films or theatre. She sat to Griffin’s left and he seemed constantly to be turning to her for approval.

Griffin made the point that everyone dismisses the idea that Britain has an “indigenous” people but they would not dare deny that Australian Aboriginals or Soux Indians are indigenous. I usually find Ms. Greer intelligent but last Thursday night she seemed determined to talk as much bollocks as everyone else. Pursuant to this she claimed that Britain does not have an indigenous population because it had an ice age! – Amazing.

I think much of the world had an ice age and if you’re going to claim that ice killed everyone off and so people had to immigrate into Britain then you could argue that for everyone in the world. There is even a respectable theory that organic compounds arrived on earth via comet debris and so you could argue that there are no indigenous people on Earth – If you want to be talking bollocks.

Chris Huhne, Sayeeda Warsi, Jack Straw, David Dimbleby, Nick Griffin and Bonnie Greer

Chris Huhne, Sayeeda Warsi, Jack Straw, David Dimbleby, Nick Griffin and Bonnie Greer

Jack Straw sat to Dimbleby’s right. I quite respect Mr Straw and he normally talks sense but he too joined in with the spirit of the evening. He said that he came from a line of immigrants of Jewish origin and during World War 2 all ethnic groups in Britain had pulled together and fought off the Hun. This is the sort of thing we British like, a mongrel breed that’s pulls together in a pinch.

However, Griffin popped his balloon quite quickly by pointing out that Straw’s dad had been a conscientious objector during the war whereas Griffin’s dad had been in the Royal Airforce.

Straw bemoaned Griffin’s anti-semitism but later, when Griffin was trying to say that he wanted to support the “indigenous” people of Britain and that colour was not important, Straw kept shouting “you mean white, you mean white”. Straw is as white as Griffin on my TV so he can’t claim to be discriminated against by Griffin just because he’s a Jew and then accuse Griffin of limiting indigenous people of Britain to whites.

People become idiots when it comes to racism and think it means hating black people. The point is that Griffin was telling the truth when he said that colour is not important. Griffin hates Poles as well as Indians. Czechs as well as Nigerians. But he was not given time to say so as the angry mob just kept yelling that he hated blacks.

One black guy from the audience said that he was born in England, it was the only country he knew and he loved this country. He then asked Griffin where he should go and Griffin said that he was quite happy for the guy to stay in England. This answer seemed to disappoint everyone present.

It was interesting that after spending 90% of the program on baiting Griffin they then turned to other questions and some black guy from the audience complained that New Labour had lost control of immigration. Straw then spouted some platitudes about implementing a points system before  Conservative MP  Sayeeda Warsi joined in the criticism of New Labour on immigration.

I guess this was encouraging in a way. That, though there was real concern about the numbers of people immigrating to the UK, nobody was drawn to be sympathetic to Griffin or to blame the immigrants themselves.

The next question was about a gay pop singer who had died in Spain and how a newspaper had written something..not sure what….I think it was supposed to be insulting to gay people. The question was about free speech in the news papers.

After not letting Griffen finnish a single sentence the hypocrites then pontificated in favour of the freedom of the press to print whatever they like.

The evening was spent trying to put words in Griffin’s mouth and then getting angry when he refused to agree with them. The whole thing was a farce.

A more evenly argued review of the program than this one was published in The Independent the next day.

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3 Responses to “Bun Fight – Question Time with Nick Griffin”


  1. 1 Paul
    October 29, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    Racism begins with our families, parents, brothers and sisters, aunts and uncles, grandparents, people we admire, respect and love.

    However, as we grow and mature we come to the realization that what we were told by our family when we were children were slanted lies base on their prejudices. We realize that most people are like ourselves and not so different and want the same things, like a home, steady work, a Medicare plan and schools for our children (if you travel you will see this). We realize that most people are of good hearts and goodwill.

    This reminds me of a parable from the good book where a Levite and Priest come upon a man who fell among thieves and they both individually passed by and didn’t stop to help him.

    Finally a man of another race came by, he got down from his beast, decided not to be compassionate by proxy and got down with the injured man, administered first aid, and helped the man in need.

    Jesus ended up saying, this was the good man, this was the great man, because he had the capacity to project the “I” into the “thou,” and to be concerned about his fellow man.

    You see, the Levite and the Priest were afraid, they asked themselves, “If I stop to help this man, what will happen to me?”

    But then the Good Samaritan came by. And he reversed the question: “If I do not stop to help this man, what will happen to him?”

    That’s the question before us. The question is not, “If I stop to help our fellow man (immigrant) in need, what will happen to me?” The question is, “If I do not stop to help our fellow man, what will happen to him or her?” That’s the question.

    This current climate of blaming others for our woes is not new. We have had this before and we have conquered it.

    Remember “Evil flourishes when good men (and women) do nothing”. Raise your voices with those of us who believe we are equal and we can win this battle again.

  2. 2 james
    July 26, 2010 at 3:27 am

    Let me explain what the BNP thinks and lets see if that is reasonable, 1we are not nazis, sorry for all the clowns in the left that think we are, 2 we are not fasicists, sorry again , 3Yes suprise supise, We are ras–ic, IC in english means the law of numbers rule all, there are thousands of these words, , IT IS the bases by which we operate,4 Yes we believe only in MATHS ,numbers, dont have a race religion, ethnic ,tribe in MATHS,Most people think that truth is what you see, or think ,both wrong ,real truth is based only on MATHS that which is because it is ,I NEWTON.This crowd of village idiots are to stupid to think this way, the mobs of Rome rule. Yet MATHS STILL IS TRUTH,the british are not stupid enough to believe in equality ,the great bull shit consept of america s liberals and left insead we believe only in EQUITY

  3. 3 james
    July 26, 2010 at 3:38 am

    Let me explain what the BNP thinks and lets see if that is reasonable, 1we are not nazis, sorry for all the clowns in the left that think we are, 2 we are not fasicists, sorry again , 3Yes suprise supise, We are ras–ic, IC in english means the law of numbers rule all, there are thousands of these words, , IT IS the bases by which we operate,4 Yes we believe only in MATHS ,numbers, dont have a race religion, ethnic ,tribe in MATHS,Most people think that truth is what you see, or think ,both wrong ,real truth is based only on MATHS that which is because it is ,I NEWTON.This crowd of village idiots are to stupid to think this way, the mobs of Rome rule. Yet MATHS STILL IS TRUTH,the british are not stupid enough to believe in equality ,the great bull shit consept of america s liberals and left insead we believe only in EQUITY,50 50 ism, this shits all over your degenerate thinking , BLACKS WITH 50 EYE COLOURS 50 HAIR COLOURS THE BELIEF OF THE ANGLO CELT IN DIFFERANCE WITH IN CONFORMITY, RATHER THAN THE SHIT IDEA OF NEGRO ARABS ASIANS OF CONFORMITY WITH IN CONFORMITY,As a bnp MEMBER YOU, HAVE BEEN GIVEN,TO KNOW WHAT WE REALLY THINK, we dont often talk to others about what our core ideas, because it is wasted on the fools, but I note that at lease you ,were willing to hear us out, UNLIKE THE FOOLS ON THE BBC,thank you for allowing me to speak my mind , this is a rare thing in the UK today.MATTER +MIND=MATHS.


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